hello , my name is Ayman , i am Egyptian but i was born in brazil in saopolo , i need to know if i came to brazil is there any one can help
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i need to get back my Brazilian passport and nationality i don't know how to do it but i already have a Brazilian birth certificate
Public Question Asked by Ayman A.Alrefaee about Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Brazil
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Answered by Tatiana Regiani from Sao Paulo, Brazil
Answer 1
Hello Ayman,
I never worked in this issue, but as long I am a brazilian lawyer it can be easier for me to find out all the needs you will need and help you with that.
I looked very quickly on the brazilian law and it seens to me that you can do it everything in the consulate of Brazil in your country (Egypt). Have you already been there? Or talked to someone there and they informed you its not possible? That why you want to do it from here in Brazil?
Well, if you need any help or if you just want to confirm the information they give you, just let me kown, ok?
Best regards,
Tatiana
Answer 2
Hello Ayman,
Sorry I havent seen all the answers before...
First of all, your question is how to get brazilian nationality. By law the following can have it:
a) who was born in Brasil, even with foreiner parents, since they were not in service of your origin country;
b) who was born abroad, with brazilian parents (father or mother), since one of them were in service of Brazil; and
c) who was born abroad, with brazilian parents, since they came to live in Brasil and choose at any time for the brazilian nationality.
Now, it´s important to understand the reason your parents came to Brazil, in the time you were born. Official service of your country can have many meanings, and thats why I recommend you to specify better this reason.
I can alert you that its not just diplomatic mission it can be understood as oficial service.
Although I couldnt have given you a proper answer I hope it helped you somehow.
And dont forget that the key for your problem is to get to know how and why did your parents come to Brazil, and have documents to proof it.
If you need more information, let me know.
Best regards,
Tatiana
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
dear Tatiana ,
thank you very much for your help its really was a great information ,
and the answer to your question why my parents go to Brazil is because my father was working in the Islamic center in Sao-Paulo ,
but it was not in a service to egypt , it was a service to the Muslim people who live in Brazil
and by the way his residential card says that he was not working as a diplomatic or as a government employ ,
its exactly like if the Egyptian university send a professor to work in Brazilian university for a period of time. and he get a child there this child get the Brazilian visa or not ?
in the same time he was sent from the Egyptian government to run this position
if you could help please i need you to search in the Brazilian law if this i don't have the right to get the nationality because of that or not
your help will be very high appreciated thank you very much again
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Answered by Rosana Hernandez from Cresciuma, Brazil
Just go to any brazilian consulate with your birth certificate and they'll give your documents right way....
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
they told me that i dont have the right to get the brazlian nationality becouse that my father was taking his salry from the egyptian gov.
but in the same time he was not a Diplomatic
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Answered by a Localyte from Santos, Brazil
You have to search a Brazilian consulate in your own country to request your Brazilian documents.
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Answered by Sylvia Bason from Sao Paulo, Brazil
HI, I think you need to go to Federal Police' office in São Paulo and they will inform you about that. You don't need a lawer to do it, try to get more information on the site www.dpf.gov.br. Good luck!
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Answered by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
dear all thank you very much for your fast and your great reply
it was very helpful for me , but i still have a problem in this subject ,
the full story as the following :
i was born in brazil in Sao Paulo, Brazil becouse my father was working there in the islamic center .
he wasn't in a dublomatic posation
i had a braizlian passport and i go to the brazlian empasy to renew it when i was 25 years old and they canceld it and told me that i dont have the right to have the brazlian naonality becouse my father was working for the egyptian government there .
i go back to the empasy after 2 year when the consulate change and they told me the same but i met a brazlian pepole here in egypt and they told me thats worng the only one who dosn't have the right to get the nonailty is the doblomatic pepole .
and i have been told that if i go to brazil i could get it .
i just need to know how it can been done
Comment by Rafael Torres from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Ayman, I know someone very specialized that will assist you, just write to me and I will put you in touch with this person!
My email is donrafainrio@yahoo.es
I hope we can do a lot together, very nice that you wrote! Salamaleiko!
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Answered by Jeferson Santa Maria from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
I would really find a lawyer to help you, it is faster and you would not need to worry about anything. Do research the best answer, think about the places that you will have better chances for business and also combine with a place that you will enjoy to live.
I am in Rio de Janeiro and I can tell you that we can find a lot of fields here!
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
yes please send me a lawyer contact information and i will try to contact him
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Answered by Clarice Albuquerque from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
I think you really have to look for a lawyer, the same lawyer mentioned here, is the one I know and he is good!!!
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Answered by Aline Silveira from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
The situation seems to be easy but it is quite complicated, you need someone special to help you, find a lawyer!
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Answered by Alberto F. Nogueira from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
You really need to find a lawyer, it will be way better.
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Answered by Fatima Yanovich from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
People with some portuguese knowledge would try to do it alone, but you need a lawyer. Dr. Alessandro is one of the best names in Copacana, and he has been very useful to my community.
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Answered by Rivaldo Benedito from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
I wish you all the luck for you and you are mostly welcome here my friend!
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Answered by Fabi G. from Sao Paulo, Brazil
The best way to get the right information is going to the Brazilian Embassy in Egipt. Here is the directions:
Embassy of Brazil in Cairo
1125, Corniche El Nil Ave. – Maspero - Cairo 11561 - Egypt
Tel +20 2 2577-3013/2575-6936/2576-1466 Fax +20 2 2577-4860
Duty Officer: +20 12 244-4808
E-mail : brasemb@soficom.com.eg
Open to the public: 09:00 – 15:00 hours (Sundays to Thursdays)
Hope it helps. Wish you good luck!
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
thanks for the information but i allready know it
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Answered by Jeff green from Sao Paulo, Brazil
Hi
In order to get a Brazilian passport, you will need your birth certificate, a valid picture ID and proof you voted in the last 2 elections.
As you were living in a foreign country, you will have to go to an electoral justice office and justify your absences - and probably pay a fine. Last, you will need to set up an apointment at the Federal Police to show the required documents. Once things are right, you ll have to go back and get your passport which should be ready in 2 weeks.
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Answered by roberto pereira de souza from San Paulo, Brazil
I am afraid you will have do present some other documents such as election certificate, military certificate, IRS certificate and Social Security ID #. Having the birth certificate will not be enough for anybody to get the first passaport. I understand you should go to a Brazilian Embassy and check the list of those necessary docmts.Also, before buying a ticket, check if can afford presenting those documents. You could (in case you haven't) check the Brazilian government website to make sure about all information you mast provide to get a new and first passaport. good luck. Roberto
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Answered by Rafael Torres from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
A good beggining is that you have a brazilian birth certificate. Then you will need a lawyer to make things faster, but if you come to Rio de Janeiro, I can help you.
I am an experienced and registered tour guide, I also have a lot of contacts that can give you the right directions.
Comment by Rafael Torres from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Please do write to me, and I will give you more details. My email address is donrafainrio@yahoo.es
And if you want to know more about me, I have a personal blog that I also write about my work which is http://donrafaguestsinrio.blogspot.com
Comment by Rafael Torres from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Fantastic to hear that you are from Egypt, I have deep interested in arabic countries, and I know that your country is a very special one. I have friends in the Emirates, Syria and Lebanon.
Comment by Rafael Torres from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
And Egypt gives me a wonderful impression of tradition and adventure. I would love to visit your famous museum in Cairo, I think it is a HISTORY MUSEUM, you can learn alot of your past. I would love to visit Luxor and Alexandria, and also learn more about the north of your country, go deep in the Nubia Area and finally find the falls of the Nile.
So write to me and let's see what we can do together, I will be very happly to help you!
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
thanks for ur help i will write to u and i when u come to egypt i wish i could help u too
but please let me know how u help ?
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Answered by Marcone Lima from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We have a common friend, Rafa and I that is passing through the same situation. He lives in Venezuela, he has the brazilian birth certificate because he was born in Recife, and he is applying for the brazilian citizenship with the help of a lawyer., It seems to work! He is in the process to get his passport now!
Comment by Rosana Hernandez from Cresciuma, Brazil
you don't need to pay a lawyer for that....
Comment by Rafael Torres from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
This procedures can be done by yourself with no costs, you will only have to pay for the documents to be ready. But of course with the help of a lawyer which I know a very good one, everything will be faster and with no mistakes!
With a lawyer you get what you want in the fast way!
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Answered by Patricia Barreto from Armacao dos Buzios, Brazil
Hi Ayman!! Try with the Brazil embassy in your country or in Brasil in this site:
http://www.opengate.com.br/embegito/
with the birth certificate is really easy get your brasilian passport. Good Luck!!
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Answered by Flávio Melo from Sao Paulo, Brazil
Call Dr. Freddo, specialist in International Law. He certainly can handle your immigration and nationality matters - +55 (11) 2827-4500
http://www.fjctb.com.br/index2.html
He is a Brazilian Lawyer with LLM in New York (Columbia).
Trustworthy and dependable.
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Answered by Gloria from San Paulo, Brazil
If you come to Sao Paulo, Brazil, there's a poupatempo where you can get all your documentation done there on the same day. Just take your birth certificate along with photos 3cmx4cm and for first ids. no need to pay any fee. Check the poupatempo site: http://www.poupatempo.sp.gov.br/home/
Comment by Gloria from San Paulo, Brazil
If you're abroad, just go to a Brazilian consulate/embassy along with 2 photos 5cmx7cm, pay a fee (around 30 dollars) and that's it. But if you're already in Brazil, you may have to get your id first at poupatempo. And if you're over 18, you'll have to go to any Justiça Eleitoral to register there. The fine for not having been registered is about 2 dollars. Anyway, it's much easier to get your passaport at the Brazilian embassy/consulate in Egypt.
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
the problem that this web site is in portugaese and i dont speack it i only speack arabic and english
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Answered by Flávia Godoy from Florianopolis, Brazil
Hello. I am very sorry, but I don't know about those legal procedures. You should get in touch with the Brazil Consulate, even in Egypt they will be able to give you more information on that.
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Answered by Marco Terra from Sao Paulo, Brazil
hello!
I can help you to find an embassy for that, and with translation services as well.
Let me know if you are interested.
cheers
Marco
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Answered by Luiz Andre Batistello from Pato Branco, Brazil
Hello Ayman! Im not in Brazil! but I think you can go in the website of policia federal and get more informations about it! You are already Brazilian..if u was born in the Brazilian territory u don`t need to prove anything..in any brazilian consulate u can take your passaport. Otherwise if u come to Brazil..is gonna take 1 month maybe. I hope to helped u.
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Answered by Havelock "Jimmy" Campbell from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Hamdulilla! Salam alleikum, Sidi Ayman!
Your Brazilian bc makes you a Brazilian national, consequently entitles you to a Brazilian passport. When applying, try never mention your Egyptian citizenry.
I have a lawyer at hand who specializes in accompanying cases like yours.
Look me up: www.aybloc.com. If you so wish I'll help where I can! Insh'allah!
I'm a Rio & Brazilian tourism professional now, but always was a bit of a gypsy like you, too. I once had to even make do with a UN passport for 2 years in Canada, until the confusion was solved.
B'salama;
Jim
Comment by Ayman A.Alrefaee from Cairo, Egypt
thank you very much for you great answer ,
please let me know how i can procced to get my pasport back
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